"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
04/13/2018 at 19:38 • Filed to: Tesla, Elon Musk, tesla model 3, model 3
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"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt)
04/13/2018 at 19:38 • Filed to: Tesla, Elon Musk, tesla model 3, model 3 | 3
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So, about those self-driving cars...
Spanfeller is a twat
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/13/2018 at 19:44 |
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Musk and everything he stands for is overrated.
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> Spanfeller is a twat
04/13/2018 at 19:44 |
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Your comment is underrated.
SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/13/2018 at 19:48 |
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But humans make robots...and the robots don’t work. A Model 3 is not a robot and yet....
Tesla at times sounds like a self fulfilling fuck up prophecy. And yet so much if it actually works. It’s so mysterious!!
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KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
> SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
04/13/2018 at 19:56 |
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Maybe Elon Musk is a robot!
C62030
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/13/2018 at 19:58 |
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no YOU is underrated
jimz
> KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time
04/13/2018 at 19:59 |
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gee, maybe those big dumb automakers who have been building and selling cars for a century might actually know what they’re doing?
DipodomysDeserti
> jimz
04/13/2018 at 20:50 |
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So what you’re saying is Musk needs to hire more lobbyists?
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Spanfeller is a twat
> DipodomysDeserti
04/13/2018 at 21:18 |
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I particularly loved when GM was sued over the deaths of countless individuals for a design flaw they knew about for years , oh you can’t go wrong with the good ol’ faitful big 3*
*: Except during their bankrupcies
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jimz
> Spanfeller is a twat
04/13/2018 at 21:52 |
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they didn’t know that design flaw would lead to deaths. it was a disconnect when constructing the DFMEAs; no one connected the dots that the ignition switch moving out of RUN would lead combine with loss of control of the vehicle and lead to harm due to lack of airbag deployment. the severity of the ignition switch issue was miscategorized as an “annoyance.”
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Spanfeller is a twat
> jimz
04/14/2018 at 00:00 |
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They designed the system, the fact they took it so lightly is unnaceptable; they must’ve known whay happpened when the ignition was turned off
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jimz
> Spanfeller is a twat
04/14/2018 at 04:40 |
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but they didn’t. that’s what the investigation found. the severity was mis-classified.
have you done a DFMEA?
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Spanfeller is a twat
> jimz
04/14/2018 at 13:22 |
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I know what a DFMEA is, I haven’t gotten the pleasure to carry one out. But a missclassified test like that just reeks of carelessness, they didn’t even need a faulty switch, when you turn a car off
its off
, no power steering, no brake boosting, and probably no airbag deployment because that’s how most car electrics work! If you classify a failure that could lead to loss of braking power and steering capacity as an annoyance, there’s something wrong there, specially considering that the brakes and the steering are the two most important controls of the car, so lack of those leads to a crash, and the airbag wouldn’t deploy because the switch is turned off, so that could kill a few people which is unacceptable
Either the engineers at GM fucked up(which I doubt) , or the bean counters decided to go a-la ford pinto and just thought it’d be cheaper to deal with the deaths than with fixing the cars.
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jimz
> Spanfeller is a twat
04/14/2018 at 14:35 |
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you can read the Valukas report here:
It’s right in there. Engineering screwed up. First by releasing a switch which could rotate out of position, and by misclassifying the severity of the failure as simple “vehicle stall.” Had they walked the tree down all of the potential failure modes, they should have arrived at the situation where the vehicle collides with something after the ignition switch turned itself off. But they didn’t. And they didn’t even know at first that the defect played a role in any crash fatalities.
(and as a minor nitpick, you don’t lose power brakes if the engine shuts off. the brake booster has a check valve in it and maintains vacuum for at least 2-3 presses of the pedal.)
edit : trust me, I work in the industry and everyone has studied this report. This was as big a deal (if not bigger) than Takata. These things will be case studies for years to come.